SpeedyHedgehog91's VS Blogs: Ghostface vs Wet Bandits

 

"GET OUT OF MY HOUSE!"
- Squidward Tentacles

Billy Loomis & Stu Macher, Woodsboro's first ever take on Ghostface and tormentor of Sidney Prescott from Scream.

Harry Lime & Marv Murchins, arch-enemies of Kevin McCallister known as the Wet Bandits from Home Alone.

Most people would assume that your home is a safe spot during any but in the case of stalking murderers that will chase you down and robbers that will take your most prized possessions, that's a different story. Just seeing these two duos is an indication that things might go south sooner or later. The iconic slasher squares off against the most infamous home invaders in a battle between professional yet clumsy home invaders in film history. Will Ghostface add a few more kills to their names or will the Wet Bandits achieve a victory at last?

Before We Begin

If it wasn't already made clear, this blog will only focus on Billy & Stu from the first Scream movie so no other Ghostfaces within the franchise will be taken into consideration for this fight. Mortal Kombat 1 will most definitely not be applied for this fight...if that wasn't already obvious to begin with. As for Harry & Marv, we'll only be looking into the first "Home Alone" and it's sequel 'Home Alone 2: Lost in New York". I am NOT watching Home Alone 4. Also, no Home Alone games for this fight (if they even had anything special in those game to begin with). Not much else to say about what we're including for both parties.

A question some of you guys might have is how this fight will work out. Obviously, a regular physical fight doesn't work in Harry & Marv's case and I was struggling to figure out a way to get around that problem. However, a brief discussion I had about this matchup on r/DeathBattleMatchups sparked an idea on how it could play out (more on that later).

With that out of the way, let's get started!

Background

Ghostface

Almost a year had passed since the death of her mother Maureen but things would only get worse for Sidney Prescott. It turns out that a mysterious killer in a ghost-like costume was going around gutting people up and poor Casey Becker sealed her (and her boyfriend Steve's) fate that exact night the moment she answered a phone call from a mysterious voice. As more bodies dropped over the past few days in Woodsboro, Sidney realised the cold hearted truth on who was behind all of this. The mastermind behind these deaths was her boyfriend Billy Loomis who, in a shocking twist, wasn't working alone. It was also revealed that Billy had an accomplice helping him, that being Stu Macher.

It was also revealed that Billy's father had an affair with Maureen and was what drove his mother to leave, pretty much abandoning him with his father at birth. Out of pure anger the moment he found out why his parents split up, Billy wanted revenge and convinced Stu to tag along with him. With enough knowledge on horror movies, Billy and Stu used these movies and the rules that goes along with it to their advantage and soon killed Maureen before going after Sidney and her friends a year later. As for Stu's motive, he didn't really have one aside from peer pressure. Nonetheless, Sidney would end their terror and kill them before they kill her.

Even after Billy and Stu's death, the legacy of "Ghostface" lived on through a film franchise titled 'Stab' as well as various copycat killers who wore the mask in later murder sprees.

Wet Bandits


Christmas was right around the corner and the McCallister family were on their way to Paris. They had brought everything that was needed for this festive trip except for one thing...or one person to be exact. It turns out that young Kevin McCallister was accidentally left behind during the rush to the airport. For Kevin, he felt free to do whatever he wanted especially after his frustration with his family during the night before the trip. His only problem was that two burglars were sneaking around and stealing valuable items from his neighbours. Those crooks were none other than Harry Lime and Marv Murchins who were better known as the "Wet Bandits".

After Harry went around the neighbourhood disguised as a police officer, they had a good idea on who wouldn't be home for the holidays and steal from them once they've left. What they didn't expect during their thefts was Kevin being home alone in the house they desperately wanted to rob while everybody else had left for a trip to Paris. The boy would go on to create various traps after overhearing their plans to steal from his house overnight. Needless to say, the Wet Bandits went through a lot of pain that Christmas Eve as they fell for every trap that would stop them in their tracks. Just as when they were about to get revenge on the kid who tortured them, they were soon knocked out by Kevin's newfound friend and were later arrested that night.

Fast forward to a year later and a prison riot erupted, allowing Harry and Marv to escape and head off to New York under a new nickname the "Sticky Bandits". Just as they were about to rob a large toy store of its charity money, they cross paths with Kevin, who was spending the next couple of days leading to Christmas once again, and chased him through an abandoned apartment. Their near revenge on the boy was stopped once again by a scary looking but friendly person that Kevin becomes friends with, this time being a lady that takes care of pigeons, and were arrested once more. 

With that, Kevin managed to stop the Bandits in time to reunite with his family. Anyone who says that there are more than two Home Alone movies with a fourth one that also focuses on Kevin who has to stop Marv a third time is lying to you. Home Alone 3 to 6 don't actually exist.

Experience & Skill

Ghostface


Using horror movies and learning the rules that come along with them, Billy and Stu learnt the ways of a slasher and became ones of their own. Their killing tactics usually involve sneaking into people's homes and going in for the kill once they're vulnerable so stealth is considered their greatest skill. Considering how the fight's going to play out for this debate, that kind of experience might be one of their great assets for this battle. They may seem like regular humans in a mask but a lot of people tend to forget that they are very intelligent when it comes to understanding the simple formula horror movies tend to follow and can take a lot more hits than what most would expect.

Wet Bandits


Despite failing to defeat Kevin and robbing his family's home and their lack of intelligence, the Wet Bandits have succeeded in breaking into people's homes and stealing from them prior to that moment. To add on, they planned to steal charity money from a store named 'Duncan's Toy Chest' by staying hidden within the building and taking it all once it was closed for the night. Granted, Kevin was the only issue they didn't think about at the time but without him stopping them, the Bandits probably would've succeeded. Both also learn from their past mistakes during their attempts of avoiding traps in New York, or at least Harry did, such as the paint can trick. Even so, they somehow managed to break out of prison during a riot so there's that to consider. Are they the smartest criminals? Not at all. However, they are pretty experienced in home invasions.

Equipment

Ghostface

Costume and Mask

Originally known as the "Father Death" costume, this very recognisable costume allows the wearer, Billy and Stu in this case, to conceal their identity and blend in with the shadows thanks to its black robe and ghost-like mask.

Buck 120 Knife

Every Ghostface's weapon of choice for gutting people like a fish. This knife allows Billy and Stu to quickly stab someone or slit throats and with a quick wipe of a hand, it's good as new.

Voice Changer


To hide their true identity even further, Ghostface makes use of a voice changer that allows them to speak to their victims with a more sinister and threatening voice. They often use the voice changer when speaking on the phone more so than in-person but who's to say they can't do what future Ghostfaces do and hide it inside their masks, similarly to how Mickey Altieri did it during his reveal.

Phone

Ghostface carries a phone with them whenever it's time to play a game of horror trivia with their victims and taunt them before one or the another goes in for the kill.

Beretta 92FS

During the final act, Billy and Stu wield a gun that they threaten to use on Sidney and her father after Billy shot Randy. However, they save the gun until they reveal themselves as the killers much like many other Ghostfaces.

Duct Tape

Not really used for killing anyone but it's enough to keep someone, like Steve Orth, tied to a chair before their eventual doom.

Rope

Another item that isn't really used for killing people but Ghostface ultilises some rope to hang up their gutted victims for others to find.

Corn Syrup

"Same stuff they used for pig's blood in Carrie." Billy used some corn syrup to fake his injuries and supposed death before revealing himself as one of the killers.

Wet Bandits

Crowbars

Like most crooks, Harry and Marv carry crowbars to break into people's homes. They can also use it to bash other people...like each other for example.

Dodge Ram Van

Their choice in a getaway vehicle is a rusty "Oh-Kay Plumbing & Heating" van to remain undetectable for their crimes. Not much else to say about it.

Police Officer Costume

Harry uses a fake police outfit to trick others into thinking he's a real cop. This allowed him to figure out which families wouldn't be around for Christmas. Marv could probably use one of his own but this disguise seems to be more exclusive to Harry.

Sticky Glove

During their escape to New York, Marv created a sticky glove as soon as the duo became the "Sticky Bandits" (at least that's what he says). It allows him to grab objects like pennies, hats, scarfs and anything else he can get his hands on.

Revolver

After their arrival in New York, Harry has a gun in his possession and planned on using it on Kevin once he and Marv finally caught him. Fortunately (for Kevin at least), it was covered in tons of goo before he could even use it at the time.

Abilities

Ghostface

Superhuman Endurance

For normal high school students, Billy and Stu were able to show how durable they are by stabbing each other until they began feeling woozy to make themselves look like victims. They really should've just killed Sidney and everyone else present then and there at the time before taking jabs at one another but whatever. Billy also survived getting stabbed and shot in the chest although a shot to the head was enough to kill him.

Wet Bandits

Superhuman Endurance

Much like their lack of intelligence, it's pretty clear to everyone that Harry and Marv have some incredible durability. From paint cans to flamethrowers to falling from great heights, they somehow managed to live another day. Whoever started the joke about Kevin becoming Jigsaw when he grows up might have been on to something given the shit these two can tank in one night.

Feats

Ghostface

Overall

  • Killed a total of six people altogether
  • Billy tricked Sidney into thinking he actually died for a moment
  • Became the first ever Ghostfaces and inspired new killers that took on the persona in later murder sprees
  • Kidnapped Neil Prescott, Sidney's father, and had a plan to frame him as the killer
  • Framed Cotton Weary
  • Can fight equally with Sidney Prescott

Strength

Speed


Durability

Wet Bandits

Overall

  • Succeeded in robbing plenty of houses prior to their conflict with Kevin
  • Broke out of prison and escaped to New York
  • Almost successfully robbed a toy store of its charity money
  • Managed to catch Kevin multiple times even though those moments of success are very brief

Strength

Speed

  • Able to keep up with Kevin, even after being severely injured
...That's about it. They're not very fast.

Durability

Weaknesses

Ghostface


Billy and Stu might have been able to pull off a murder spree but these guys are very clumsy and their lack of vision when wearing their recognizable masks doesn't help at all. Because of this, they can be left vulnerable for attacks. Towards the end of the movie, Billy and Stu not only spent part of their reveal monologuing but they made the ridiculous decision of stabbing each other to make them seem like sole survivors without killing Sidney or her father beforehand.

That doesn't mean they're dumb, far from it as a matter of fact, nor do they always make these kind of decisions but that idea well and truly backfired on them. Nothing more than a case of "great plan, bad execution". Speaking of that final act, Billy and Stu don't exactly have the best teamwork. They can plan out kills and execute them but as soon as things go horribly wrong, Billy begins to lash out and gets blinded by his own rage which was a factor to his eventual demise.

Even if they take a few hits to the face or a gunshot to the chest, they are not your typical slasher like Michael Myers who can survive plenty of life-ending attacks. They are still average humans who can be killed, especially with a gunshot to the head (just in case they come back for one last scare) which is what killed Billy in the end. Stu might have survived getting electrocuted by the TV that smashed him in the head but there's nothing that really confirms it so for now, we can't say that he made it out of that alive.

Wet Bandits


Let's cut to the chase; Harry and Marv are idiots. They continuously fall for every trap that gets in their way and almost never learn their lesson when the next one comes around. Even though Harry is the smartest out of the two, he didn't even make it past the sixth grade. Marv's intelligence (if he had any to begin with) isn't any better. In fact, it's probably worse compared to Harry. He was tricked by firecrackers perfectly timed to a scene from an old movie and thought Arizona was a foreign country. Also, Harry has a short temper while Marv is scared of the dark, spiders and heights.

As much as we joke about the Wet Bandits being immortal and how they should've died at least 10 times whenever they crossed paths with Kevin, they are still human so their durability isn't just limitless nor is it impossible for them to feel pain. Their stamina is still limited despite the amount of pain they can go through as shown when Old Man Marley knocked both of them out with a shovel to the head. Not to mention that these two are pretty bad at being stealthy given that they have a bad habit of speaking or just straight up shouting out loud and alerting their presence.

Maybe their durability might be enough to prevent them from being killed in this debate but we'll have to wait and see what the verdict says.

Before the Verdict

Do Billy and Stu scale to other Ghostfaces?

There have been arguments as to whether or not each team of Ghostfaces scale to one another and while most of them have similar feats to go over, this doesn't mean they scale to each other except for themselves. Billy and Stu may be superior than other killers but that's not how scaling works especially in this case. Aside from scaling killers to their own accomplice, I find the idea of scaling every Ghostface to each other strange since none of these teams have actually interacted with each other. That includes any argument about Billy and his mother Nancy scaling to one another, which even that probably doesn't work since she started her killing spree after her son died.

TLDR; finding ways to have Billy and Stu scale to other people who've taken on the identity of Ghostface just comes off as an invalid way to scale them any higher than they already should be.

Can Marv regenerate?

In Home Alone 2, Marv is shocked via an electricity box attached to a sink to the point of a skeleton (really goes to show how deadly Kevin's traps are)...at least that's what we're supposed to think? Home Alone is known for its slapstick comedy and would be enough to confirm that Marv did in fact turn into a skeleton for a few second but some could also see this as a visual gag. Either way, there's really no answer to this question. Pick your poison, I guess.

How will this fight go?

Now that we've covered just about everything for this blog, it's time for the question you've probably been wondering since the beginning of this blog given that one of the teams here aren't exactly fit for your average battle of fisticuffs. No matter. I did come across a fight potential of sorts that would best suit not just one side of the debate but both of them. 

Here's an explanation on how the verdict will be decided:
- The "fight" will take place at Kevin's house where all of his traps have been placed; neither of them are aware that they've been planning to enter the house on the same night until they've crossed paths.
- Billy and Stu will be chasing Harry and Marv around the house with both duos trying to avoid whatever trap is in their way. (Spoilers: They are definitely going to fall for those traps and get themselves hurt.)
- As for Kevin...he'll probably be watching the chaos unfold. I'm sure he'll be fine.
- The win conditions for both sides of this debate are as follows:
  • Wet Bandits - Both Ghostfaces are killed whether it's by their own means or luring them into traps without, or at least before, getting arrested.
  • Ghostface - They manage to kill both Harry and Marv or at least knock them out and hide from law enforcements before their opponents are arrested. Getting arrested prior to their success in the battle will still count as a win just like their competition.

Verdict

Stats

Despite this matchup not being a physical fight (at least for the most part depending on what happens throughout), the stats are fairly close because of one factor here. Before we get to that, let's get through the obvious stuff first.

I'm not going to sugarcoat it. Billy and Stu are definitely not getting the edge in durability. To give credit, they've taken plenty of beatings of their own but so did Harry and Marv except worse. Paint cans to the face, flames to the head, bricks to the head, being launched into the air and just so much more. Not even gas explosions and electrocutions were enough to take down the Wet Bandits. There are probably some ways they could be killed but in Ghostface's case, it's going to take a lot more than a few stabs to put these guys down. Gunshots might help but Ghostface is not the only one with a gun on him (more on that in the next category). Not to mention that Stu's cause of death was via electrocution, something that Marv survived.

Thankfully for the Woodsboro slashers, they take the advantage in speed. The Wet Bandits are nowhere near as fast. Keeping up with an eight year old won't do much favour when you're up against two guys who can kill swiftly, ran down a hallway before getting noticed and are likely on-par with someone who dodged a speeding car. Ghostface takes this point with relative ease.

What this category really comes down to is strength. Both duos have shown some decent amount of it. Some of Ghostface's best feats, in the first Scream movie at least, consists of lifting people above the ground after killing them (with their feat of lifting Kenny on top of a van being the best feat out of them), shattering glass with their fists (or their knives give or take) and knocking someone out by kicking them into a pillar. For the Wet Bandits whom despite not showing a bunch of feats of strength, are capable of lifting a person off the ground. Lifting Kevin (I mean the kid, not Gale's former cameraman) will probably do nothing to earn their victory in this category but Marv sending Harry into the air is definitely enough. Granted, that feat was done under certain conditions but it's still impressive for Marv to lift a more hefty guy like Harry that high up even compared to Ghostface lifting Kenny, another person that's fairly hefty.

Overall, it appears that Ghostface has the advantage in 'striking strength' while the Wet Bandits likely have the upper-hand in 'lifting strength' because of that particular feat. Because of this, it's probably a safer bet to call it a tie in terms of strength. In fact, that's main the reason as to why nobody has a clear advantage in the stat trinity since strength alone could go to anyone.

Arsenal and Skills

Another tough one to decide given that their arsenal is pretty self-explanatory. Taking guns out of the question and comparing their usual weapon, Ghostface's hunting knife is a much more effective use of weaponry for a physical confrontation. Harry and Marv would likely use their crowbars to bash someone in the head if needed to but Billy and Stu have taken plenty of hit to the head from beer bottles and vases. If not that, then they could probably use them as a defense weapon of sorts.

We don't really need to go through the rest of their so-called "arsenal". Phones are practically useless here (unless you throw it I guess) and I doubt Harry and Marv will have any opportunities to get in their shitbox of a van and turn Billy and Stu into roadkill. Maybe Marv could just take one of the killers' knives with the help of his sticky glove but I wouldn't count on it. Thanks to their possession of guns, it pretty much evens out the odds for both teams even if the teams decide to rely on them last minute.

Harry and Marv's crowbars could be enough to make this category another debatable one. If we're going off by who has the deadlier arsenal however, Billy and Stu take it easily regardless if it's not enough to get the job done.

Other Factors

Here's where things get interesting. There's no denying that in an actual fight, Ghostface takes the cake. Neither teams are known for proper fighting of sorts and say what you will about the Wet Bandits' durability but at least Billy and Stu are able to defend themselves against someone who is brave enough to fight back before anything happens to whoever Ghostface's victim is.

Given the scenario, the Wet Bandits have the edge in experience. After all, they've dealt with homes being filled to the brim with traps twice. However, they are pretty much guaranteed to rush into just about all of them while Ghostface could probably avoid a few so long as their limited vision and clumsiness doesn't get in their way though that's also pretty likely. Neither really has an advantage in the battlefield since even learning the layout of the McCallisters' home means that both sides would have a rough idea on where they're going. On the topic of their home invasions, Harry and Marv aren't exactly outmatched in that department as both have succeeded in breaking into homes and getting away without getting caught prior to their battle with Kevin. However, the same can be said for Billy and Stu who've managed to kill their victims in a stealthy manner...until the climax at least.

The Bandits' biggest weaknesses is the fact that they're dumbasses. Shocker, I know. Even if they learn from past experiences, more-so in regards to Harry than Marv, and were somehow able to escape prison despite their low intelligence, Billy and Stu are much smarter and it's not even a debate. They've taught themselves how to become slashers and thoroughly plan out their murders before executing them. Ghostface is also fairly manipulative towards their targets and while they're not the most competent killers compared to a few others, they're easily more competent than the Wet Bandits (if they even had any competence to begin with). There is still a few more things that need to be pointed out.

Everyone knows that Billy and Harry are notorious for losing their tempers when things go wrong. However, the difference is that Billy becomes a tunnel-visioned maniac blinded by his own rage, a factor that led to his eventual demise, while Harry...well, his anger is best describes as "Joe Pesci trying not to swear in a family comedy". To be fair Harry has made the dumb decision of blindly waltzing into traps but as far as outbursts go, his is surprisingly more tame than Billy's.

We also need to consider their use in teamwork. It's no secret that both sides have a bad tendency to bicker with one another but based on what we've seen from the two teams, Billy and Stu's alliance seems to crumble a little bit easier. Sure, Harry has gotten frustrated over Marv anytime he makes a dumb decision or just whenever Kevin has the upper-hand over the two but they still continue working together and remain allies. Billy and Stu on the other hand...well we all know what happened to that the moment Sidney told them that she called the cops and Billy went more batshit insane than he already was. Needless to say that their teamwork will fall apart a lot sooner than Harry and Marv's.

Another issue Billy and Stu have is their methods as Ghostfaces, particularly their main idea of swapping places with one another before revealing the fact that there were two killers taking on the Ghostface persona towards the final act. This wouldn't work at all considering that they're facing two burglars in the same house, both of which would likely be splitting up and searching the house to cover more ground. On a rare occurrence that both Ghostfaces come face to face with one of the Bandits at the same time or if one of them falls into a trap that would alert their presence while the other is dealing with one or even both Bandits, their idea of "a murderer that's secretly two people" would already have been revealed. I highly doubt that they're going to reveal that there are two killers and attack Harry and Marv until the climax of this debate unless the Bandits do figure out that there are two killers in the same house one way or another.

The biggest issue here is how this fight would actually end. Neither would probably be able to put the other down by their own hands so that's probably a winning factor that can't be done by anyone, unless they put their guns to use. That means it all comes down to who has a better chance of survival, whether it's against each other or Kevin's traps, or who can stay on their feet the longest before the police show up. It's not as clear as you'd think.

The Wet Bandits are not great at being stealthy and quiet, something Ghostface is capable of being, thus allowing the two slashers to know where the crooks are at all times. They are also way slower compared to two teens who can scale to people that have dodged speeding cars. However, what they do have over Ghostface is a greater amount of stamina. It's still limited, as shown when getting knocked out by Old Man Marley, but it's still very high given that they were able to continue chasing after Kevin despite their many injuries. You can argue about how Billy and Stu continued hunting Sidney after stabbing each other but it still managed to slow them down.

As stated previously, a bullet to the head was enough to kill Billy while Stu was killed by a TV that was smashed into his head. Meanwhile, Harry and Marv have survived plenty of injuries, most of which would kill Billy and Stu with ease such as electrocutions, gas explosions, getting their heads caved in by paints can and metal pipes, falling from much greater heights than ones Sidney Prescott has survived and just so much more. Any life-ending trap that Billy and Stu fall into whether it's by clumsiness or lack of vision when wearing the Ghostface mask would definitely be enough to kill them. Could Billy and Stu knock out the Wet Bandits before evading law enforcements at the very least? Maybe. Although, it'll probably take a while for their stamina to drain out enough for that happens.

"Surely this isn't the decision I've come to? I mean, Harry and Marv are incredibly dumb nor are they good in these kind of physical confrontations." That what I thought when I first started writing this blog and I was extremely close to giving the win to Ghostface.

As strange of a verdict this may seem, the biggest morons in movie history managed to achieve a victory for once. For all I know, this probably could've been a regular fight for the most part and they probably somehow still would have won...Okay that might be a stretch but I'm not going to figure that out if that's true or not.

I seriously wish I was joking about this verdict right now.

Conclusion

Ghostface

Advantages

  • Faster
  • Much smarter
  • Stronger in terms of striking strength
  • Will always be able to find Harry and Marv if they ever lose track of them
  • Deadlier choice of a weapon
  • Better at doing their jobs

Neutral

  • Both teams are clumsy and would definitely run into plenty of traps, although Harry & Marv probably have it worse
  • Gun
  • Similar amount of experience in home invasions; from what is known about each team at least
  • Kevin McCallister defeats both teams

Disadvantages

  • Not as durable and would likely die to any life-ending traps in their way
  • Less stamina
  • Alliance is more likely to fall apart
  • Would take more than stabbings to put the Wet Bandits down
  • Any plans involving switching places to make it seem like there's only one killer probably won't work
  • Billy's outbursts would affect his chances of survival more than Harry's short temper

Wet Bandits

Advantages

  • More durable, giving them higher chances of survival against the traps and Ghostface's stabbings
  • Greater amount of stamina
  • Stronger in terms of lifting strength though that might be debatable
  • Better teamwork
  • More experience in facing deadly traps
  • Harry's anger problems are less of a problem unlike Billy

Neutral

  • Both teams are clumsy and would definitely run into plenty of traps, although Harry & Marv probably have it worse
  • Gun
  • Similar amount of experience in home invasions; from what is known about each team at least
  • Kevin McCallister defeats both teams

Disadvantages

  • Dumber (no explanation needed)
  • Slower
  • Would consistently alert Billy and Stu due to how noisy they can be, meaning avoiding them will be difficult for them
  • Crowbars aren't nearly as useful compared to Ghostface's knives
  • Likely going to get arrested even if they end up winning
  • Home Alone 4 (To be honest I just want to forget that everything after Home Alone 1 & 2 even existed)

Yeah I'm not gonna lie. I'm kinda bummed out that my favourite slasher lost this battle more than I am happy about seeing Harry and Marv winning. Not that I have a problem with that. Home Alone is my favourite Christmas movie but I like Scream a bit more. Guess this is what happens when the underdog of slashers is your favourite horror character.

I suppose this was more about seeing if the Wet Bandits would go up against Ghostface just as well as Kevin McCallister. Despite my first initial thoughts on giving Ghostface the win for the majority of this blog up until the final category, it turns out that they do much to my surprise. Funnily enough, this isn't the first time where I thought otherwise about the verdicts of previous matchups for both duos before looking into the debating side of things and comparing feats for both of those matchups. In fact, one of Ghostface's options, which wouldn't have been limited to Billy and Stu only by the way, was actually Mr. Peterson from Hello Neighbour. Weird coincidence, am I right?

This matchup is much closer than some might think (seriously, this was one of the most difficult decisions I've had to make throughout my time as a VS debater and dare I say it might even be closer than Ghostface vs Kevin which has a very debatable outcome of its own) but Harry and Marv's incredible durability and stamina alone would likely allow them to survive and stand longer than Billy and Stu ever could...even if those idiots end up getting arrested once the battle's over.

The winners are Harry and Marv, the Wet Bandits.

Final Tally

Probably no need for a tally since this was done by one person but here's one anyways.

Ghostface - 0 (RIP my second favourite character)
Wet Bandits - 1 (SpeedyHedgehog91)


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